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The Difference Between Marketing, PR, Advertising, and Personal Branding

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A few months ago on Ads of the World and Pronet Advertising, the difference between marketing, PR, advertising, and branding was discussed through pictures.

marketing pr advertising personal branding

If you take a close look at the pictures from a personal branding perspective you’ll notice that you definitely don’t want to market yourself as well as advertise yourself. Doing these two things makes you seem a bit desperate. Telling a woman that you are a great lover usually doesn’t mean much because it is coming out of your mouth. And if you go one step further by repeating that you are a great lover (advertising), you can definitely count on the woman not believing you. But on the other hand if a woman tells another woman that you are a great lover or if a woman tells you that “I hear you are a great lover” chances are you are going to get laid.

If you want to brand yourself you need to understand that it is much more effective when other people talk about you in a positive fashion compared to self-promotion.

Hopefully the picture helped!

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Dan Schawbel Says:  
2007-10-24 08:23:35

This is easier said than done though. It’s about building influence and growing the number of brand evangelists for You Inc.

Neil Patel Says:  
2007-10-24 08:27:13

It is never an easy thing to do. But as the saying goes, all great things take time.

 
 
2007-10-24 08:42:03

Thanks for the pictures. They do explain the concepts so that I understand the differences. I have seen others talk about branding and wasn’t sure exactly what they were talking about.

 
Todd Mintz Says:  
2007-10-24 09:15:07

Brilliant!

 
Pablo Palatnik Says:  
2007-10-24 09:19:26

I think the PR and Branding comes with good advertising and marketing. Great illustrations though. It’s good marketing and advertising that will do the trick.

For example, companies that use celebrities in commercials, etc or pay them to wear their clothes, in a way, thats all of them put together. Really depends on the strategy you implement for each channel that can make the other one (i.e. marketing, branding) a success.

Neil Patel Says:  
2007-10-24 09:25:46

With products and services I would have to agree, but when it comes to personal branding I think you can do it by helping others and leveraging PR.

 
 
handsome rob Says:  
2007-10-24 09:24:19

For what it’s worth, I am a great lover.

Neil Patel Says:  
2007-10-24 09:30:13

For what it’s worth, I think you are too. ;)

Have to love branding!

 
 
Pablo Palatnik Says:  
2007-10-24 09:34:05

Neil, absolutely. Personal branding is a whole different story and I missed that part. I would have to agree with you, the best way of personal branding is through others. Your personal branding came from others in the industry talk about you, Mr. “social media expert” and speaking in conferences which really developed your status in the industry which is great. Anyway, very cool blog…glad you changed the design cause the other one was cool but kinda weird (the design).

 
Hawaii SEO Says:  
2007-10-24 10:22:32

I love you! :)

 
Brent Says:  
2007-10-24 12:39:28

Nice analogy! What about those of us that get laid just by smiling at the girl?

Neil Patel Says:  
2007-10-24 12:45:52

I guess you are a lucky guy. ;)

 
 
Brian Says:  
2007-10-24 16:07:17

In the the marketing and advertising slides, it infers that the difference between marketing and advertising is simply volume. A better depiction would be to have the guy speaking to one girl about the benefits of his love making for the marketing slide, and then bellowing over a megaphone to a crowd of people about his great lovemaking.

That’s hard to depict in a silhouette.

Neil Patel Says:  
2007-10-24 16:09:42

That would be difficult to represent, but I do agree with you. In many cases marketing is targeted towards an individual while advertising is targeted to a group.

 
 
2007-10-24 22:25:07

This works as a very succinct representation of each exercise. Thanks for this, Neil.

 
Donald Says:  
2007-10-25 08:34:21

Marketing is understanding what customers want, it’s not just promotion. And advertising is a part of branding.

Neil Patel Says:  
2007-10-25 13:21:10

There is a lot more to marketing such as the 4ps. Problem is I got the picture from Ads of the World instead of creating it myself.

 
 
Matt Ellsworth Says:  
2007-10-25 09:20:34

thats a great overview.

 
Jon Says:  
2007-10-25 10:41:53

Remember back to your text books….advertising and PR are elements of marketing. The Marketing picture should have included elements of the other pictures…then add in a price or promotion, and some nice packaging. Then, placement of the messaging should be relevant to being a great lover…

Neil Patel Says:  
2007-10-25 13:20:22

I agree with you, but I did not make the picture. I found it on Ads of the World.

 
 
Joy Says:  
2007-10-25 11:23:56

I’m not a marketing expert and knew only a few terms in marketing but the pictures helped a lot for me to understand it clearly..^^

 
The Baldchemist Says:  
2007-10-25 17:30:45

Just make sure that you are pitching the demographic you wish to attract. Pitching to all and sunder creates indifference.
Go for the top drawer and make sure you know what ‘top drawer” expects.
The Baldchemist

 
Tim Molendijk Says:  
2007-10-26 01:37:46

Hmm… it feels strange to compare these four as if they are at the same level. Especially branding — other people reacting to your (positive) reputation is of course *the result* of the branding, not the activity itself. (Otherwise it would be an astonishingly passive activity.)

I would depict the four terms and their relations as follows:

- Branding: building a brand. This can be achieved by (a.o.):
+— PR: maintain good relations
+— Marketing: communicate (tell something and listen, or vice versa). The ‘tell something’-part can achieved by (a.o.):
+— Advertising: spreading the message

Tim Molendijk Says:  
2007-10-26 01:40:12

=== edit: fixed tree ===

- Branding: building a brand. This can be achieved by (a.o.):
+— PR: maintain good relations
+— Marketing: communicate (tell something and listen, or vice versa). The ‘tell something’-part can achieved by (a.o.):
+— Advertising: spreading the message

Tim Molendijk Says:  
2007-10-26 01:41:49

=== crap, still messed up, try again ===

- Branding: building a brand. This can be achieved by (a.o.):
+— PR: maintain good relations
+— Marketing: communicate (tell something and listen, or vice versa). The ‘tell something’-part can achieved by (a.o.):
….+— Advertising: spreading the message

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Thiru Says:  
2007-10-26 06:34:53

I agree with your views. You have to market yourself only with a person who influences 100 other people’s views. Then, you need not talk anything to anyone. Wikipedia calls it as “Influencer marketing” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influencer_marketing

 
Mack Says:  
2007-10-26 07:32:30

HERE IS THE LINK FOR THE SAME ILLUSTRATIONS ON ANOTHER BLOG >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

http://neutronllc.com/ideas/brand_illustrated

 
mike foster Says:  
2007-10-28 20:18:30

that graphic pretty much sums it all up…im passing this along to a lot of the folks i work with…great stuff…mike.

 
Lawrence Cheok Says:  
2007-10-29 05:20:14

Great message! If you have to tell someone how good you are, then you probably aren’t.

 
Andrey V Says:  
2007-10-29 16:26:19

Great comparison!

 
Ben Cope Says:  
2007-10-29 20:34:55

Very good pictorial analogy of the differences between marketing, public relations, advertising, and branding!

 
Mukesh Says:  
2007-10-30 00:02:01

congrats on the PR5

Neil Patel Says:  
2007-10-30 06:35:12

Thanks… I never really found PR to be that useful. At the end of the day all I care for is search traffic.

 
 
2007-10-31 00:08:33

Great Information and love how you used the pictures for your analogy. I agree totally.. someone writing a reveiw or testimonial, is certainly the best option. It goes back to you aren’t successful by how much you earned but by hom many people you help along the way. The more you assit the more great reveiws you will have. Thanks for the article

http://www.PassportMentors.com

 
Bas Says:  
2007-10-31 13:35:04

Great analogy. Makes it especially easy to explain to people who really don’t understand the difference between these phrases.

 
Webee Says:  
2007-11-01 09:09:17

That’s a great comparison

 
2007-11-01 21:14:35

This is fantastic! I better Stumble this page.

 
Ta4ka Says:  
2007-11-02 23:47:18

That is true, but there is another factor, which says that throw a lot marketing the message gets in people’s heads and when they have to choose later whit whom to get laid the firsth one they think of is the most advertised :)

 
evolvor Says:  
2007-11-03 16:07:51

What about the ex-gf who’s talking $&!# about you ’cause ya left her a$$ - would that be the press (i.e. negative press?)

calcio jcak Says:  
2007-11-05 02:30:51

then you have to use crisis management from a PR perspective.

Neil Patel Says:  
2007-11-07 18:47:38

Yea it would be negative press and impact your reputation.

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2007-11-04 07:06:57

Neil,
Pictures ARE worth a thousand words! I agreed with all of your pictorials except for the marketing one. Marketing, in it most simple and direct definition, facilitates an exchange environment. There are many arms to marketing and unfortunately we see more of the “promotion” aspect which is just a part of marketing. Marketing encompasses the branding of the product (even if the product is YOU), is it the right price (price doesn’t necessarily mean a monetary value - it can be a time investment or effort), location & timing also are a part of marketing then finally the promotion side. If all of those elements are not facilitating an environment for exchange then the exchange won’t happen.
Great post!
Maria Elena Duron

 
Claire Says:  
2007-11-05 04:21:45

Oh, this was SOOOO written by a man. Being a great lover will not get you laid. Being a great GUY will!

One of those can be taught, but the absence of the other one makes the whole thing doomed to failure.

5691gerg Says:  
2007-11-09 11:27:45

Nice one, Claire! Guess the guy never did his market research to learn what his customer wanted or how she should be spoken too! Now his marketing investment is wasted! HA! HA!

 
 
Dennis Says:  
2007-11-05 07:13:27
 
Spike Jones Says:  
2007-11-05 12:39:41

P.S. These images are from the fantastic book called “ZAG” by Marty Neumeier. Check it out - it’s a great read.

 
Tina Su Says:  
2007-11-06 01:09:46

What a great idea. I really enjoy the content of your blog. Keep up the awesome work.

Love & Gratitude,
Tina
Think Simple. Be Decisive.
~ Productivity, Motivation & Happiness

 
Sue Says:  
2007-11-14 08:50:06

Great visual picture and pretty accurate imo

 
Comis Says:  
2007-11-14 18:39:32

Hey, that’s very interesting. Make good sense also. Enjoy your info!

 
MK Says:  
2007-11-16 19:25:56

I like the visual idea of these concepts. kind of a nice reminder what NOT to do

 
claire s Says:  
2007-12-03 04:46:07

But what happens when the girl finds herself in bed with the object of a PR exercise, who doesn’t know his arse from his elbow, literally. I feel a set of negative PR illustrations are needed for this one. :)

 
Imran Rafique Says:  
2007-12-17 11:52:13

Great picture. It makes it easy to understand when you put it in visual terms.

 
Michael Says:  
2008-01-03 04:41:43

I think the advertising slide is only partially correct. The man should be telling everyone he is a great lover, not just the one girl. Maybe using a sign, a loudspeaker, wearing a t-shirt that says he is a great lover, etc.

Michael

Neil Patel Says:  
2008-01-03 08:55:29

Totally agree with you, but sadly I was unable to modify the image because I do not know how to use Photoshop.

 
 
Eric Says:  
2008-02-10 09:57:04

Doesnt hurt branding to have a 9 and a half inch crank.

 
2008-05-15 21:47:25

[…] Hoe bouw je een personal brand? Kijk eens goed naar wat sterren als Oprah Winfrey, Tiger Woods en Madonna gemeen hebben. Ze hebben allemaal tijd, aandacht en energie besteed aan hun unieke personal brand. Je kunt een expert inschakelen om je personal brand te helpen bouwen. In Nederland helpt Tom Scholte professionals om van zichzelf een merk te maken. Op zijn site staan handige tips. Hij verwijst ook naar de Personal Branding Blog van de Amerikaan Dawn Schawbel en naar de leuke illustraties van Neil Patel die het verschil aantonen tussen marketing, advertising, pr en personal branding. […]

 
Multimastery Says:  
2008-06-25 09:55:09

The way this guy is spreading himself around, all of this could actually fall into the category of VIRAL Marketing & Advertising LOL…