Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he’ll steal your fish.

by Neil Patel

bitch stole my fish

Have you heard the saying, give a man a fish, and he’ll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he’ll eat for the rest of his life. Well a wise man once told me that if you teach a man to fish, he’ll steal your fish.

Helping others is a great thing to do and I have even preached in the past that you should help people. But one thing you shouldn’t do is teach people everything you know because no matter how good of a friend they are, it will cause your knowledge to be less scarce. Plus there is nothing stopping them from selling your knowledge to others, which could have been money going into your pocket.

Hopefully this blog post doesn’t discourage you from helping others, but for a moment just think about the saying:

Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he’ll steal your fish.

The saying is very true and I personally learned it the hard way. You should never teach anyone everything you know. You can teach people some things, but keep your trade secrets to yourself. If you don’t, expect that individual to steal your fish.

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esotericsean September 2, 2008 at

Pretty interesting advice, I think there are certain times when you can trust someone with everything you know, but you’re probably right in that most of the time you should only teach them how to bait and cast and let them figure the rest out on their own.

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

I would say that you have to be careful even with family.

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atlanta wedding photographer September 13, 2008 at

You have to protect the information that you have that you are profiting from. Pertaining to what I said about seminars. If you have valuable information then people need to pay for it. However, since the “teacher” will be progressing the information that he may give will be already surpassed and taken advantage of by the teacher. HOWEVER, no teacher is going to give the “secret sauce” information. It’s the same as having people over to your home. You’ll have them over but they don’t have access to the whole house all of the time at any time.

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Neil Patel September 15, 2008 at

As long as you give bits and pieces you are usually fine. The good thing about doing that is it helps build credibility and can help you make more money as well.

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Sid Savara September 15, 2008 at

A little off topic, but that’s basically how lots of bloggers have turned their blogging in to book writing success. Steve Pavlina, Darren Rowse specifically both have books that were basically spawned by having such large communities that they built by slowly building credibility over the years.

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Neil Patel September 16, 2008 at

There is nothing wrong with that too. I bet you some of those guys don’t talk about everything they know.

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Sid Savara September 16, 2008 at

That’s true, I’m sure that as a Professional Blogger, Darren probably doesn’t give away all his tips. I would imagine Steve probably writes everything he knows about general personal development, and he’s trying to turn that into specific one on one coaching as a business.

I think that the one on one coaching is a lot closer to “giving a fish” than teaching them to fish though, since now you’ve got them always coming back for coaching!

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Neil Patel September 17, 2008 at

The thing with teaching these days is most people don’t use what you teach them.

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Online Colleges May 27, 2009 at

My Father has always said don’t do business with family or friends, because in the end they won’t be anymore than a fleeting memory a who you once knew.

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Neil Patel May 31, 2009 at

I agree with your father. He is a smart guy.

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Melanie Phung September 2, 2008 at

It depends. If you’re not after the fish yourself — and instead have a pretty good business selling fishing rods — it might not be so bad having him “steal your fish.”

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

In that case you wouldn’t be in the business of “catching fish” so you can teach someone how to fish. But if you teach someone how to build rods, it can decrease your revenue.

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Melanie Phung September 2, 2008 at

And if people started coming to you wanted to learn how to build rods you can either send them away because you don’t want to share your secrets…. or you can start selling them fishing line. I hate to get all “Who Moved My Cheese” on you, but sometimes being successful is about allowing old knowledge to become commoditized and grabbing better opportunities upstream. There’s something to be said about not jealously hoarding information … it allows progress to happen, knowledge to evolve. On the other hand, sometimes people do just need to learn to STFU and stop giving all their “cheese” away for free. ;)

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

Nicely put. With old information, by all means give it away and teach others. With cutting edge information, you shouldn’t teach others everything you know.

But I do get what you are saying. To some extent if you teach others it will help build up your brand.

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atlanta wedding photographer September 13, 2008 at

I think what you are saying is be a teacher or a mentor to someone. You had to got through the hard work of putting all the bits of information that you got together. We teach people the basics and “some” new ideas (tools) and then they are responsible to make themselves successful.
Besides, give people enough information so that they will want to come back to your paid seminars to get a little bit more.

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Neil Patel September 13, 2008 at

It isn’t even about getting people to come back to paid seminars. If you can make money off of your knowledge, even better, but you should just try and be careful what you teach. At the end of the day, it can affect your income.

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Corey September 2, 2008 at

I agree with you, I don’t think I would tell someone everything but I would still help them. Sometimes people are looking for direction, like the steps or process of fishing, just to get a start in the right direction. That little bit of knowledge may be huge to them without giving them the fish or having them steal it. Ultimately people need to have their own ideas and goals.

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Dave Conrey September 2, 2008 at

If you teach someone how to fish and they turn around and outfish you, that’s not stealing, that’s capitalism. Maybe he took your technique and improved on it. Perhaps your fishing skills are antiquated.

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

But there are only so many fish in the sea. The fishes he caught could have been ones you caught. ;)

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Rapidshare July 19, 2009 at

That little bit of knowledge may be huge to them without giving them the fish or having them steal it. Ultimately people need to have their own ideas and goals.

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Neil Patel July 26, 2009 at

Right it’s important to go after your own dreams and aspirations. It’s good to follow someone, but to a certain extent.

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Christopher Rees September 2, 2008 at

I my memory serves from a seminar I took quite a few years back, the story goes something along the lines of teaching something wrong on purpose.. The martial arts were taught wrong for thousands of years when they were passed from Japan to China.. From what I remember from a martial arts seminar I had probably 20 years ago, a Tuite master spoke of how the Japanese actually taught and passed on martial arts to the Chinese, but purposely taught them wrong. Not completely wrong, the art was functional against typical foes… but they taught them stances that they could easily attack that actually opened the meridians (pressure points) inside their legs, making them more vulnerable to attack. The thought being if they should ever have to face the Chinese in battle, they would be able to defeat them more easily.

Do I have verified proof of that statement, no… I’m paraphrasing from a seminar I attended 15-20 years ago.. but it does make sense if you think about it, and it’s something you should think about as well. When someone teaches you something, keep that little thought in the back of your mind, take what they’re teaching and keep what is useful, discard what is not, and put your own spin on it.

An of course don’t teach everything you know… As the old saying goes, “Dad, of course I can beat you, you taught me everything I know! ….Yes son, you’re right, but I didn’t teach you everything I know… ” :)

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

Great example. You can be better than your teacher if you put your own twist on what they taught you. There is always potential to improve upon things.

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Pdf July 19, 2009 at

Do I have verified proof of that statement, no… I’m paraphrasing from a seminar I attended 15-20 years ago.. but it does make sense if you think about it, and it’s something you should think about as well. When someone teaches you something, keep that little thought in the back of your mind, take what they’re teaching and keep what is useful, discard what is not, and put your own spin on it.

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Neil Patel July 26, 2009 at

Yes, it’s important to be open minded though and avoid letting your ego getting in the way.

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Krutal September 2, 2008 at

I stole your fish :) and you know it.

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

LOL, you did.

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Shilo Urban September 2, 2008 at

I say screw the damn fish thieves.

Of course I am coming off a weekend where my laptop and cell phone were stolen, so…as of this moment I am kind of in the fend-for-yourself and put-number-one-first camp.

Give me a week though and I will be back teaching people I care about how to fish- that’s the real issue- WHO are you teaching to fish?

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

Currently I am not teaching anyone. Luckily I have always been a bad teacher, so even if I try teaching others, it usually doesn’t go well. :)

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Bobby Rio September 2, 2008 at

I’d love to be the idealist and stand up to you and argue… but sadly its true. You really need to be careful what you tell people. I run quite a successful men’s online magazine, and have made friends with many in my niche… but i learned the hard way that helping them out… means a smaller slice of the pie.

I’m all for sharing tips… advice… lesson’s learned… but if you have something genuinely special… something that makes your product uniquely your own… then hold it close to your heart!

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

I am the same way. I don’t mind sharing small stuff, but I try to keep the good stuff to myself.

By the way, nice blog. I love the GOP Vice Presidental Candidate Sarah Palin is a MILF… post.

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Rapidshare July 19, 2009 at

An of course don’t teach everything you know… As the old saying goes, “Dad, of course I can beat you, you taught me everything I know! ….Yes son, you’re right, but I didn’t teach you everything I know… ” :)

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Neil Patel July 26, 2009 at

hmmm interesting saying, but I like it.

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Joshua September 2, 2008 at

I’m going to go ahead and disagree with you (Office Space anyone?)…

I think sharing knowledge is directly responsible for the overall progression of our collective intelligence and well-being.

I think we should keep an ‘abundance mentality’ with ideas and share them around.

I fear the world we’d be living in if everyone thought their ideas were the best but didn’t reveal them. There goes electricity and airplanes!

…but then again, you’re probably just relating this to the oft-shady world of internet marketing, right?

If that’s the case, I fully agree. ;)

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

Sharing knowledge isn’t the problem and if I felt that sharing knowledge was bad I wouldn’t blog. ;)

When I mean don’t teach others to fish, I mean don’t teach them everything you know. For example if I was a successful management consultant, I wouldn’t teach others what I consult on and how I get clients. I may teach someone one or the other, but teaching them everything can be deadly.

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Yogesh Sarkar September 2, 2008 at

Couldn’t agree more, these days almost everyone wants to make an extra quick buck and to most it doesn’t matter whose to they step on in the process. So it is best not to let everyone know, everything you know about a particular industry, even if they don’t belong to it.

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

Those are the people you really have to watch out for. The ones who want that quick buck will try and weasel their way into what you are doing and learn from you. Even if you don’t teach them anything, they may still learn from your actions.

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Jay Tillery September 2, 2008 at

This is very true and you’d be a jackass to think someone will teach you everything you know. Sure i’ll teach a man how to bait the hook, but i’m not going to teach him my way of hooking the fish. Get it?

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

I get it, but people do think you will teach them everything. I get emails on a regular basis asking if I will teach them how to make money.

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Rapidshare July 19, 2009 at

Don’t help. Solve. Take the problem seriously. Apply your sharpest knife. Find the very best partner(s). Solve the problem. Generic “helping” is useless on a global scale. The boy scout model is pleasant and makes us each, individually feel better because we took a few seconds to help.

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Jay Tillery September 2, 2008 at

Oops! I made an error. You should be they.

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Lily September 2, 2008 at

Ah, take it easy on the B word. I am a big fan .. but your constant use of the B word in your posts is a turn off.

Just bitchin’.

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Neil Patel September 2, 2008 at

Sorry Lily, I was thinking the same thing today. Not just this post, but I felt I have been using bad language in my last few posts. :(

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Lily September 3, 2008 at

Hey, you’re forgiven. I just hold you at a higher standard than the mere mortals. :-)

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StartBreakingFree.com September 3, 2008 at

I’m kinda surprised so many people agreed with this actually. In my experience…there really aren’t any “secrets” out there to success, what you should do is pretty clear, it’s just a matter of doing it. Ironically, sometimes no matter how much you give someone advice they don’t take it, haha. The harder question is how do you get people to actually use your secrets!

I dunno, maybe I’m naive…I tend to think the world is abundant, if I help someone else make a ton of money, it will end up helping me in some way down the road. I don’t really mind if it makes them $1,000 and I only get $10 of value out of it cuz I can still get $10 from a whole lotta people.

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

But what happens if it makes them $100,000 and $0 for you? Sounds like rare occurrences, but sadly it has happened to me.

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Jeffrey Posner September 2, 2008 at

I think a lot of this comes down to hanging out with too many fisherman. Why not have a full deck with a captain, crew and 1st mate.

Diversify your company more…pun intended ;)

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

There is nothing wrong with having a crew, but if your crew knows everything you know what is stopping them from starting their own company?

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Joshua September 3, 2008 at

Loyalty, friendship, moral beliefs? Or maybe they aren’t the entrepreneurial type?

:)

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Jeffrey Posner September 3, 2008 at

@Neil

I think that still comes down to picking the right crew. After being burned here and there, I like to pick people who are passionate about what they do, but are not interested in any spotlight…or even have a phobia of it.

In fact I work the best with people who are looking for someone to take the spotlight because it’s just not what they do. There are a ton of gifted people with “no balls” for the lack of a better expression. Sorry if I offended anyone.

@Joshua

Yes, but they are not that common anymore :(

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

Valid point. The best business partners I had and current have don’t care about the spotlight. All they care about is the company they are building.

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Web Development India September 3, 2008 at

I totally agree on this.
Like Guru’s never give their followers 100% what they know…
This makes them a “Guru”… otherwise every one can be…

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Sid Savara September 15, 2008 at

Isn’t that part of the point eventually though, where the student eventually surpasses the master?

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Neil Patel September 17, 2008 at

It is, but you don’t want to pass you too quick. If they do, you may be a broke master. :(

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Peter September 3, 2008 at

How do you deal with this with your business partners though?

Wouldnt they expect you to share all your knowledge etc. to make the
business a roaring success?

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

With business partners you only share knowledge that needs to be shared. The trick with business partners is not to have ones with similar skill sets, this way you guys can do different tasks.

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Web Development India September 3, 2008 at

Yeah i agree too, i would like to choose a business partner who has excellence in other field rather than from the same field and business can only built up on trust with each other, in country like india, there are two types of business partners “one – technical partner” and “second – financial partner” and they run the business successfully across the globe.

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Neil Patel September 4, 2008 at

There has to be more types of business partners. You should also look for a partner who is a visionary.

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Web Development India September 4, 2008 at

Hi Neil, you may be right.
Can u please list out few other partner types.

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Neil Patel September 5, 2008 at

Not sure of any other partner types. All I know of is the business guy, tech guy, and the visionary.

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Shanker Bakshi September 3, 2008 at

Right Said Brother – I learned this from my experience too. I Taught a person everything i knew – now he is doing my job ( and am searching for a new job – Somebody help me :-)

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

Sorry to hear that. Best of luck trying to find a job.

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Deep Patel September 3, 2008 at

Shanker,

lol, you outsourced yourself!

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

LOL. That is actually a good business idea. If you get paid 100k for a job that doesn’t require you to be in an office, you can outsource it to India for 10k and keep the rest.

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Premium Links Directory September 15, 2010 at

How do you deal with this with your business partners though?

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Neil Patel September 19, 2010 at

It takes time to find the right partner first, but then when you do, it becomes a lot easier.

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Derrick Kwa September 3, 2008 at

Maybe I’m just being idealistic, but I have to say I have my doubts. While I do see where you are coming from, I would tend to agree with Melanie from earlier in the comments. In today’s world especially, what with information and knowledge being so readily available, keeping “trade secrets” gets harder, and arguably less valuable. It’s more important to be able to adapt and move. Or maybe I’m just being too naive.

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

To some extent I agree and to some extent I disagree. With some knowledge it is only useful for a certain amount of time. In that case by all means share it and build a name by sharing the knowledge.

With trade secrets and things that can last for a long time, you want to keep it to yourself as long as possible. You will be surprised on how many secrets are not public or on the web yet.

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Deep Patel September 3, 2008 at

LOL, for some reason that picture reminds me of Chapple’s Show….but your are right, you have to be careful what you teach people because it can come back to bite you in the ass. Once I when to a trade show, and talked about on a topic I was going to blog about and I noticed that someone I met at the show also blogged about what we were talking about, something I taught him!

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

Dude, it also reminds me of the Chapple show. I just thought I was a bit crazy… at least I know it wasn’t just me.

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Jeffrey Posner September 3, 2008 at

Trade shows are a bad place for people like us to be talking… You have to be real careful about how much info you give away with speaking engagements.

We all just get so into it and actually like talking about this stuff, thats the problem ;)

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

What I like to do at trade shows is give the audience enough to where they love what I am saying, but little enough to where they can’t act on the information I gave them.

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Jeffrey Posner September 3, 2008 at

Ah…the games we play ;) Well said Neil.

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Music Blog September 3, 2008 at

That picture kills me every time. I have actually done this myself as well. It was on a more concentrated niche my company focuses on so it wasn’t a huge deal but taught a freelancing employee many great tips and after the contract was up they went and started their own company using many of the tips I showed them to use money and to make them a competitor.

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

That sucks! :( All you can do is learn from your mistakes and hope it doesn’t happen again.

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Chris Leone September 3, 2008 at

I think it comes down to your audience and what you are trying to accomplish by divulging your knowledge.

You said you don’t consider yourself to be a good teacher. I’m not trying to knock on you here, but that might have something to do with your POV on this subject.

There’s a special relationship between an teacher and a student/mentor and protege. My part time gig is teaching drumlines, and I can tell you that I would never hold back from my students to protect my own self interests. As a teacher/mentor, your goal is for your student/protege to improve, exceed and excel (even beyond your capabilities). Having someone devoted to someone else’s improvement and success has been a stable of civilization dating back as far as we can know.

When you make a commitment to an individual or group of people, you aren’t fulfilling your duties by “holding back.” The feeling that comes from helping someone else succeed through your guidance and their devotion is one of the most fulfilling things you can experience.

But of course, you wouldn’t tell a direct competitor what makes you better than them. You still have to protect your own survival.

Again, it comes down to your audience and your intentions.

I’m gonna go eat some fish…

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Neil Patel September 3, 2008 at

Thanks for shedding some light on the subject. I can now see when you may want to teach someone everything you know. One day I would like to be a professor and as you said yourself, I probably wouldn’t hold back.

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Conches September 12, 2008 at

oops, my post (conches) on the next thread was meant to be here.

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Nicaragua Surf Man September 4, 2008 at

That picture is hilarious. I find that a lot of times when I try to teach people anything, most of the info goes in one ear and out the other. But I guess it only takes one person to use your secrets elsewhere to take money away from you.

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Neil Patel September 4, 2008 at

And if that one person teaches someone else, you can expect to lose even more.

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Conches September 12, 2008 at

Well said. As some one whose career is in philanthropy I have come to the conclusion that the only engine that has enough horsepower to actually solve the world’s most intractable problems is the market. (I specifically say the market as opposed to Capitalism. Markets are science and Capitalism is religion.) The problem with the physics of making a better world is that we have two competing markets. The one that says I have to compete to be the best and win the resources and the other says I have to collaborate to achieve the goals of a better world.
And there in, I believe, lies the answer. We need to collaborate to create a better world.

The Teach-A-Man-To-Fish paradigm is a mess. First, it concentrates on the Man when many studies show that, specifically in the developing world, women are far better entrepreneurs. Second, people know how to fish and the assumption that you are “helping” by telling some one everything you know is more ego stroking than anything. There are lot’s of people who fish much better than I do. (To take yet another tangent, knowledge or IP, IS a fish. In an information economy teaching some one to fish means requires a vibrant education system. Something that we should work to develop here in the US, eh? In an information economy, IP IS a commodity. Knowing how to fish is the ability to innovate, to apply insight to opportunity and then operationalize.)

Don’t help. Solve. Take the problem seriously. Apply your sharpest knife. Find the very best partner(s). Solve the problem. Generic “helping” is useless on a global scale. The boy scout model is pleasant and makes us each, individually feel better because we took a few seconds to help. But, with out an ability to strategically aggregate our collective efforts to “help” we are just making ourselves feel good. Find someone who is every bit as good at fishing as you are and point your collective skills at a specific problem and then take the problem seriously enough to internalize the hubris to solve it.

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Neil Patel September 13, 2008 at

WOW, thanks for the input!

I totally agree with you about women entrepreneurs. They are great and have different perspective on many things. I just wish there was more of them.

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Vinh September 4, 2008 at

What if you always hire people that are better than you are. Then, you can always still their fish. Business owners should always hire talented people who are or have the potential to be better than themselves. That’s the way to grow!

If the person you hire knows less than you, make them grow in their area of expertise but keep yours secretly.

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Neil Patel September 4, 2008 at

I am with you on that one. For that reason I always try to hire people who are smarter than me.

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Darin Carter September 4, 2008 at

Neil, I couldn’t of said it any better myself. I have been down that bridge several times and I still give to as many as possible … but never “everything”! That is a great thought to live by!

Darin

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Neil Patel September 4, 2008 at

I live by it to the fullest extent. Even if the person was my brother or sister, I still wouldn’t teach them everything I know. Sounds cold, but it is the truth.

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Kat September 11, 2008 at

Think about this: “Give a man a fish and it’ll feed him for a day, show him how and he’ll buy the equipment from you.”

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Neil Patel September 13, 2008 at

Not a bad idea if you are trying to get out of fishing. ;)

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tim September 11, 2008 at

“But one thing you shouldn’t do is teach people everything you know because no matter how good of a friend they are, it will cause your knowledge to be less scarce.”

Only if your knowledge does not increase, and consists entirely of things which can be transferred completely.

Almost all of my favorite musicians and artists were also teachers, but the success of their students didn’t impugn their success at all. For example, Bach was a teacher throughout his life, but he was always far more famous and successful than any of his students or children.

If anything, it sounds as if this makes a convenient excuse for both not improving, and not teaching.

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Shanker Bakshi September 11, 2008 at

The things you are refering are related to a specific art thats MUSIC , This saying dose not fit for ARTISTIC knowledge. It is more realted to general Knowledge which dose not require ARTISTIC capabilities.

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Neil Patel September 13, 2008 at

With some knowledge it can be transferred. But with basic knowledge as Shanker pointed out, it is a different story.

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Ling Mei Yin September 11, 2008 at

Well, in real world this might be a truth. However, I don’t practice them. I’m happily give away/ tell away what I know as long as it’s not invading me personally. I don’t agree with “teach a man to fish and he will steal your fish.” In real world there are plenty of things to learn, to experience and to explore.In addition,not all the people want to accept what you have taught them.

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Neil Patel September 13, 2008 at

I get what you are saying and it seems that many of us have different view points, which is fine. I have a scarce viewpoint on many things, which is why I feel people will steal my fish.

I guess I need to learn to change. ;)

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Ranger Marcoux September 12, 2008 at

I signed up for your RSS feed a few days ago (recommended by a friend) and I’ve been laughing about that photo ever since I saw it. The look on that boy’s face is priceless.

And it’s a good point that you make too … it’s great to help people but it hurts to feel that you’ve been used, particularly by a friend.

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Neil Patel September 13, 2008 at

Thanks, I am glad you are liking the blog.

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100kjob September 13, 2008 at

I love the picture too, just can’t stop laughing. However I don’t quite agree your point. He might “steal” your fish at first, yet he may give you back a boat load of fish later on.

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Neil Patel September 13, 2008 at

Yea some people will pay it back and others may not. You just have to be careful on who you teach if you believe in karma.

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Entirely integrated i journal September 13, 2008 at

Funny picture :)

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HOBO(nickname) September 14, 2008 at

What if trade secrets are unlimited, what if ideas are unlimited, if not limited ?
I agree and disagree too but yes it is a Good post with good question.
Cheers !!!

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Neil Patel September 15, 2008 at

If they are unlimited, then by all means share away. It is when they are limited that you have to be careful.

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DoublePlus Ecommerce September 14, 2008 at

I love the picture! LOL. This is so true though. Be helpful to a point, then realize that your knowledge is worth a dollar amount and, at a certain point, people need to pay for your expertise. If they can’t or won’t, they don’t need to know that badly. Don’t short-sell yourself just because someone has a sob story.

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Neil Patel September 15, 2008 at

Never sell yourself short!

And even if people have a sob story, it isn’t your problem. Everyone has problems and they shouldn’t burden others with them. By listening to these people who sob, it is a great way to get your fish stolen.

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Ranger Marcoux September 15, 2008 at

Hmmm … I think that’s where I begin to disagree. If one’s been blessed with time, or skills, or money, or empathy, I think there’s a certain “cosmic responsibility” to help & car for others.

I’m willing to have someone share their problems, and ask for help … but of course, you still have to keep some sort of boundaries, both emotional & practical.

For instance, to give a sort of facetious example … I think a parent’s responsibility to help the next-door neighbor with a chore ends at the point when the parent’s young children are hungry and need someone to make lunch for them.

But when possible, we do have some responsibility to help those around us.

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Neil Patel September 15, 2008 at

I get what you are saying, but some people have a tendency to put all of their problems on you. This is where I draw the line. But if you are having a friendly conversation with someone and they have sob story, by all means help if you want to.

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Ranger Marcoux September 15, 2008 at

I agree … sounds like we’re not too far from each other on this issue.

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Chris September 14, 2008 at

My saying is “teach a man how to fish just enough to be able to feed himself, but not enough to sell the fish to the market.” You have a great post.

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Neil Patel September 15, 2008 at

Nicely put! I love teaching as well, but just hate teaching others “everything” I know.

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Web Development India September 14, 2008 at

Hey Patel,
Waiting for your next post on you experience at IZEA Fest…
Hope to see it soon.

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Neil Patel September 15, 2008 at

I am not sure if I am going to write on it. I usually don’t write on conference stuff and try to keep this blog purely on tips/advice.

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Web Development India September 15, 2008 at

Oh thanks Neil for reply,
can you write up post about “Black Hole” concept in SEO in detail?

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Deep Patel September 15, 2008 at

dude, I think people come here for tips on branding, read the tag line of the blog for pete’s sake! there are plenty of resources out there that focus on the stuff your requesting.

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Neil Patel September 17, 2008 at

Thanks Deep. I couldn’t have said it better.

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Shanker Bakshi September 14, 2008 at

IZEA Fest :

Well Loren Feldman said in his Keynote Speech at IZEA FEST

“Don’t care what other people are saying about you. The moment you start listening to the critics, is the moment you start to fail.”

I would like to you your take on that.

Come back and write a little nice post on that.

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Neil Patel September 15, 2008 at

I agree with Loren. Just because someone tells you something it doesn’t mean that they are right. Do what you want to do and don’t let anyone get in your way.

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Conches September 15, 2008 at

This discussion makes me sad. You have invoked kindness and community in a blog about Personal Branding. And you have concluded individuals should assume paternal status relative to anyone with a “sob story”. I would love to see a case study to elucidate this best practice in personal branding. Is this something that actually happens? Do people come to you with their hand out, telling you a sob story, desperate to own your intellectual property?

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Neil Patel September 15, 2008 at

By all means I don’t want you guys to stop helping others. See people have came to me with stories of them having cancer and stuff and I gave them money for their treatment. Sadly a few of these people lied and didn’t have cancer.

To this date if someone came to me with their cancer story I probably would give money even if that means getting burned. I just don’t want others to go through the same experience.

When it comes to helping people non-financially you should help if you can. I just hate it when people throw their financial problems on me and think I will help if they have a sob story.

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Conches September 15, 2008 at

Then it’s not about what you know at all, it’s about your money?

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Neil Patel September 16, 2008 at

It is about both. I just feel that teaching others can affect your financial well being. So yes, it is largely related to money.

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100kjob September 15, 2008 at

While most bloggers encourage readers commenting on their blog with the top commentators list, you seem to moderate the top commentators list heavily. Are you afraid of people commenting on your blog? Or you are just sensitive to commenting spam?

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Neil Patel September 16, 2008 at

I am afraid of comment spam. I feel a lot of the top commentors are commenting without reading the post. They are just writing whatever to get into the top spot, without really caring to add to the discussion.

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Shilo Urban September 15, 2008 at

It’s 2008. The only reason words like “The B Word” (what are we in kindergarten?) are offensive because of people who are offended by them.

If you censor your writing based on what might offend someone, you will never write anything- anything of interest, anyway.

There’s a whole new generation out here, bitches! We are taking OVA!

(This whole thing is said tongue-in-cheek, I certainly don’t want to offend anyone!). But I do LOVE that picture!

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Neil Patel September 17, 2008 at

Thanks Shilo. I didn’t want to offend anyone by using it, but I couldn’t resist because it was too funny.

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azita houshiar September 16, 2008 at

OT: Thank you for a succinct, informative and energizing talk. It was great! Also, it was really nice meeting you & also thanks for all the sage advise!

On topic: Agree in principle, disagree in philosophy.

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Neil Patel September 17, 2008 at

Yea, there are a lot of times I disagree as well. It is just when it comes to money that I usually agree.

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Dan Root September 17, 2008 at

I wish you had created this post about two months ago!

I recently became friendly with another local SEO guy here in my small town in Indiana…. And while everything seemed to be fine and dandy, I noticed he has been calling me daily with questions, trying to lure me into projects (ONLY after asking questions that he doesn’t know the answer to) – then never bringing them up again after he gets his answers. I must give him some credit, he’s much older and better connected than I… so he appears to be busier… but he is targeting my clients, keywords, and even stole my text one time to use for his own company description!

This post simply re-affirms what my dad and grandpa have always told me, and that is to “hold your cards close and don’t give away your hand” (poker analogy for the idiots out there).

Good reminder.

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Neil Patel September 17, 2008 at

Sad to hear. These are the times in which you really have to be careful because it affects your livelihood.

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Dominick September 19, 2008 at

That’s really sad! Sorry to hear that. Back when I was a tech writer, I saw many people online stealing others content. It’s not only sad that they have to steal, it can also really affect the business that initially paid for the copy since SEs often penalize sites with duplicate content! It’s sad to see older people trying to use younger people to make a profit, but nothing surprises me these days. I guess we live and learn eh?

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Neil Patel September 19, 2008 at

It is a part of life. Things like this will continue to happen, you just have to learn from them. :(

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Dominick September 19, 2008 at

Neil – Thanks again for another great article. One of my main websites is a review website. I do everything from DVD reviews to electronics. I often receive emails saying something to the effect of: “great website. I’m starting my own website like yours. Can you give me your contacts for contests and review material?”

Not only is it unethical in my opinion to pass out my contacts information (it is available online if you know where to look), I don’t know why I’d give that information out. Why would I want to see a bunch of websites identical to mine? When I started out, I only had 2-3 contacts I’d established while working elsewhere. From there, I worked hard scouring the web to find companies to work with, and sometimes I had to email them 10-15-30-100 times before eventually they’d work with me. It’s taken me almost two years to get where people are finally coming to me to ask me to do reviews for them. It’s a humbling experience, but I realize so many people in the world are shrewd and want the free information!

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Neil Patel September 19, 2008 at

Yea, I also hate it when people ask for contacts. When I am at conferences and attendees see that we have a mutual friend, they usually ask if I can put in a good word for them. I don’t mind putting in a good word, but I don’t like doing it if I barely know the person.

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mohan September 28, 2008 at

This remind me the dialog from the movie “The Dark Knight”
“If you are good at something don’t do it for free” :)

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Neil Patel September 29, 2008 at

I totally agree unless doing it for free makes you more money in the future.

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SumContent October 2, 2008 at

I think this is a great post. So many people get a great idea, start making a little money, and then they want to tell everyone how they made some money and how they did it (maybe even write an e-book about it). I think people who keep to themselves in business end up doing better.

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Neil Patel October 2, 2008 at

Unless you are getting tons of money to write a book, all it ends up doing is slowing you down from making more money.

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Armen Shirvanian October 19, 2008 at

This correction should replace the original quote where ever the original quote is currently shown. It is easy to see the truth in what you have pointed out here, and it would appear that the original quote was a bit misguided.

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Neil Patel October 19, 2008 at

The argument to this is that there are cases in which the original quote still remains true.

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Vakfıkebir December 5, 2008 at

As long as you give bits and pieces you are usually fine. The good thing about doing that is it helps build credibility and can help you make more money as well.

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Neil Patel December 9, 2008 at

You just have to make sure they can’t get the missing pieces from someone else…

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Kenney and Kim December 6, 2008 at

Me and my wife were just having a few glasses of wine and I remembered this pic. I had to show it to her. We were cracking up.

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Neil Patel December 9, 2008 at

It is a funny picture. There needs to be a picture site that just contains humor stock photography.

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Custom Silicone Bracelets January 17, 2009 at

That is a good saying, and I know I have heard it from somewhere else I just don’t know where. But that picture is funny, almost as funny as “I fucking love coloring” one.

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Neil Patel January 19, 2009 at

You heard it from Jeremy Schoemaker. Or at least he is the one who came up with it.

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Money Academy January 22, 2009 at

looks as the word that say ” don’t give me a fish .. but teach me fishing ” .

but in your words i don’t think that i have any FISH to gives the others

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Neil Patel January 22, 2009 at

You can give a man fish, just don’t “teach” him how to fish.

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Wowie February 24, 2009 at

I agree with you on some aspects…but…in every relationship…trust is of the essence….in order for us to survive in this “dog-eat-dog world”…we must experience different situations…especially the bad ones…we all learn from our mistakes…only a fool cant…so the next one you open yourself…you are more wiser because of what you have just experience…i still beleive that there are still people who are worth trusting and fighting for…

Im from the.philippines…i have a Qoute also..”In the Philippines…It is better to give man a fish…Than…teaching him to fish..why?????coz there are no more fishes in ourplace”..hehehehe…it is true…see you around!!!

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Neil Patel February 25, 2009 at

I like the quote! It works well in a dog eat dog world.

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Julie M March 11, 2009 at

Rather interesting perspective in a cynical sort of way. But, it is honest. There are many people out that want things, but don’t want to work to get them, so they steal others ideas. I know this happens. But, I also believe in karma and think you always help people when you can. Those ‘fish stealers’ will never REALLY be successful. Just my two cents. Thanks for the insight though!

P.S. LOVE the picture!!

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Neil Patel March 12, 2009 at

Thanks! It is probably my favorite picture on the blog.

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The Work At Home Blog June 7, 2009 at

Yeah, I understand what you are saying Neil. People from work always ask me how am I making so much money. I try and get on a different subject. I teach people where to find resources not my tricks. That comes to you in time.

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Neil Patel June 10, 2009 at

Keep it to yourself. You don’t need anymore competitors. ;-)

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sikiÅŸ June 8, 2009 at

Neil – Thanks again for another great article. One of my main websites is a review website. I do everything from DVD reviews to electronics. I often receive emails saying something to the effect of: “great website. I’m starting my own website like yours. Can you give me your contacts for contests and review material?”

Not only is it unethical in my opinion to pass out my contacts information (it is available online if you know where to look), I don’t know why I’d give that information out. Why would I want to see a bunch of websites identical to mine? When I started out, I only had 2-3 contacts I’d established while working elsewhere. From there, I worked hard scouring the web to find companies to work with, and sometimes I had to email them 10-15-30-100 times before eventually they’d work with me. It’s taken me almost two years to get where people are finally coming to me to ask me to do reviews for them. It’s a humbling experience, but I realize so many people in the world are shrewd and want the free information!

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Neil Patel June 10, 2009 at

You don’t. Make your money while you can and keep your mouth shut. :)

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Tommy September 6, 2009 at

Nice saying Neil, it is true, I have learned it from the hard way, when I taught my best friend how to get on the top of Google News, after a couple of days I saw him selling a ebook about this.. his explanation was that he needed a some money and bla bla bla bla, now a lot people know about this method about 50 and now there is a lot of spam.. :(

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Neil Patel September 7, 2009 at

Well, it happens. People think its easy to do so, but obviously it’s not. Bottom line is, if you haven’t been able to do it yourself, you won’t have the credibility to promote it.

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Sınavlar September 22, 2009 at

Yes,Really very good post because if you want to be more successful than others,you should be different and if you teach all what you know,you cannot be different.

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Neil Patel September 23, 2009 at

Well yes, you don’t want to give you secrets away, but it actuality, it helps to teach others what you know.

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EthanX October 20, 2009 at

it Chinese Proverb ” Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.” no wise man say what u just said. u got it twisted buddy :) the other quote is just what business people like to think.

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Neil Patel October 21, 2009 at

Lol, yes I’ve heard of the originally one, but I’m just referring to how it applies in the cut throat business world.

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sell textbooks July 22, 2010 at

This has got to be one of the funniest pictures I have seen in awhile. The post has great advice as well, but man that picture is great.

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Neil Patel July 24, 2010 at

lol yeah I agree with you.

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leonardo February 26, 2011 at

how narrow minded you are..
happiness is meant to be shared, always think positive.
“We are what we think, all that we are arises with our thoughts,
with our thoughts, we make the world.” – buddha

That is how one should think of, yes be wise but not scenical,
well your saying applies if you want to live alone in this world or maybe that is who you are, becareful with your thoughts.

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Neil Patel March 25, 2011 at

Thanks bud, yeah you can do that, but it really depends on what your intentions are in the long run.

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PulSe April 14, 2011 at

I think a smart old timer might tell ya “dish it out slowly”
Let em’ know when you don’t need it to get by anymore.

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Neil Patel April 15, 2011 at

Haha good definitely. Good point!

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dniel July 21, 2011 at

I fell sorry for you..

How could a man, who had learned how to fish, would still want a few fishes from your bucket when there are thousand of fish in the water??

If a man steal your fish, it only means you did not teach him properly. This I would know well because there is GREED in your tone.

I think what you are trying to say is:

“Give a man a fish and he’ll eat for a day. Teach a man HOW YOU FISH and he’ll steal your fish.”

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Alfred September 13, 2011 at

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